No wonder Morgoth wanted them! Great Spiders: Shelob | Ungoliant Over half of that is Orcs, who are pretty much all bred for fighting, so are probably stronger "Cannon Fodder" than ASOIAF peasants. Lleva tu comunidad favorita contigo y no te pierdas de nada. If you put everyone on a single flat battlefield and you just mush them all together to see who comes out on top, I think ASOIAF would take this. Enough to win at Dale but lose at the gate. Celegorm | JavaScript is disabled. 6000 Total, but this includes at least some of the Helm's deep number, so I'll say maybe 3,500 on top. She was one of the most terrifying evil spirits in Arda, taking the form of a Great Spider, and she may as well be the personification of consumption, greed and oblivion itself. Press J to jump to the feed. Also giants, werecats, wargs, direwolves, etc.. And look up on Old Valaryia. Because reasons. And Orcs are considered probably the Weakest of LOTR opponents. Maybe the best thing, They were created to hold, or "imprison", depending on viewpoint, the light of the Two. "Our towers grow ever stronger and climb ever higher, but beauty they leave behind upon earth." Ungoliant absorbiendo la Savia de Telperion. During evaporation, the black hole emits energy in the form of the positive particles that escape. Maeglin | But, assume repopulation, PLUS the addition of Dol Goldur, let's bring them back up to 10,000. Said to have about 40,000 Dothraki screamers, but he's also the largest khalasar. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. But Ungoliant sucked it up, and going then from Tree to Tree she set her black beak to their wounds, till they were drained; and the poison of Death that was in her went into th… Mandy (The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy), https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Ancalagon?oldid=3886496. Fight till death. Come join us to discuss the works of Tolkien. Consider the following: ASOIAF has a much larger population if you think about it. While those who do (Fingon, Glorfindel, Ecthelion) are clearly above average for a 1st Age elf, they are not described as having any special powers or capabilities that normal elves don't. Just when it looked hopeless, Eärendil the Mariner and Thorondor the Eagle with his flock arrived, and they battled Ancalagon and the other Dragons. As Hawking says, the black holes would evaporate. Ancalagon's death ensured that the Host of the Valar would be victorious. We look forward to meeting you. Also, remember the children of the forest? Welcome to The Tolkien Forum! It probably is. If this were a CAMPAIGN and not one giant battle, ME could do it. Eru blinks, yawns and then suddenly GRRM's world disappears.

Look at the two more prominent towers of the Tolkien novels. LOTR on the other hand has Oliphaunts (much larger than elephants), Fel Beasts, Nazgul, Trolls, Eagles, Hobbits. Luego exigió que Morgoth le diera los Silmarils que Morgoth le había robado a Finwë después de asesinarlo. Ted Sandyman, Other It says at the top that the battle has to take place in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqUI6e1T5E. You are indeed where you belong.

Go back in time too much and it quickly becomes one-sided, as others have pointed out. I would say that anything morgoth tier and up solos, and thats only because of beasts like balerion the black dread exist. Let's just say 50,000 zombies. Ungoliant demandando los Silmarils a Melkor. Ungoliant's true origin is unknown. Dark Armies Cuando Melkor fue derrotado y encarcelado por los Señores del Occidente después de la caída de las Lámparas, Ungoliant escapó a los ataques de los Valar y los cazadores de Oromë y huyó a la parte sur de Aman. In. It was pretty much the oldest, most powerful kingdom in GRRM universe. Would Anyone Be Willing to Critique my Fantasy: TCoLB? Master of Laketown | Se despertaron y de inmediato corrieron en ayuda de su Señor, destrozando las telas de Ungoliant con sus látigos de fuego y la obligaron a interrumpir su ataque. Basic knowledge for both sides. Arda is the world. Los Eldar no sabían de donde venía ella; pero han dicho algunos que hace ya muchas edades descendió desde la oscuridad que estaba más allá de Arda, cuando Melkor miró por primera vez con envidia el Reino de Manwë, y que en el principio ella fue uno de aquellos que él corrompió para que lo sirvieran"[1]. Okay, let's address a few things. Del Oscurecimiento de Valinor. El contenido de la comunidad está disponible bajo. Goblins/Orcs: Gorkil the Goblin King | Great Goblin | Azog | Bolg | Brogg the Twin | Mogg the Other Twin | Yazneg | Grishnákh | Gothmog | Gorbag | Zog the Eternal | Gazmog The fire he breathed was hotter than most other dragons.
Yes I know that LOTR has its advantages, but most of them can be countered. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. [possible ASOIAF and LOTR spoilers] I usually side with the LOTR/JRRT universe in these kind of things, but if it's the entire universe then I'm going to have to go with ASOIAF/GRRM universe. Ungoliant was a primordial being in the shape of a gigantic spider and one of the most terrifying evil spirits in the Lord of the Rings universe. Since insults fly, I could state my opinion that you're analysis of this subject reminds me of a college professor who reads the. Lotho Sackville-Baggins | Just because each army is so single mindedly unified. I give it to LOTR 8/10. Are we doing continent vs world or do you mean Tolkien's universe vs GRRM's universe? Se dice que Ungoliant pereció finalmente en sus propias manos, cuando acuciaba el hambre eterno, ella finalmente termino devorándose a sí misma. JavaScript is disabled. Who wins and why. Oct 24, 2013 - Melkor -morgoth- vs Ungoliant by Jossand on deviantART This could be used to kill off some if the leaders or more powerful warriors in the LOTR universe. This is further supported by the fact that Earendil's Silmaril provides the light of the planet Venus: there is clear precedent for the Edain having interplanetary travel. It's possible any one of them could solo Warhammer. He is the largest Dragon to have ever lived and the greatest of all winged Dragons. ASOIAF universe seems to be more technologically advanced then the LOTR universe. The magic I'm talking about is the smoke, demon assassin. The biggest portion (as mentioned before) are Orcs, who are trained, i assume from birth, in warfare. Children of the Forrest. I would say that leaving beauty behind is more of an allusion to form over function than it is saying that they left earth. Neither side has enough of a magical or technological advantage to make this completely one-sided, although the morale-dampening effects of the Nazgul and the information-gathering capabilities of the palantiri would certainly be beneficial to Middle-earth, possibly enough to swing the fight in their favor. Cuando llegaron a Araman en la Tierra Media, Melkor, ahora Morgoth, esperaba para escapar hacia las ruinas de Angband, donde los restos de sus fuerzas le esperaban. Ish?

And this isn't taking into account... Well about a million things. Ancalagon is a Sindarin word usually translated as "Rushing Jaws". Normally you'd think this refers to well-made wooden or metal shields, but given Numenorean technological advancement I think it's pretty clear this means energy shields. Sorry if the post was too old , but just to highlight points : This is a bit of a slippery question, as JRRT’s view of Melko(r)’s power relative to the other. Welcome to The Tolkien Forum!
En algún momento al final de la edad de los Árboles fue un aliado de Melkor. So not only are Warhammer troops fighting energy shielded infantry supported by orbital bombardment, but they're also getting hit by hypersonic projectiles from enemy speedsters. Qarth: Doesn't really say... so.. 10,000. But our rough estimate for the size of LOTR's fighting force is 300,000. Their towers are space elevators, and presumably the Numenorean ships are actually space ships, with shields powerful enough to withstand asteroid impacts ("hidden rocks") and the solar wind ("they sink not in calm or storm").

If even their asteroid-deflecting metal can't withstand a Numenorean sword, I doubt anything Warhammer has can do so. Obviously, then, Balrogs are massively hypersonic. Now, an extremely important fact to note is that typically, the Soldiers of LOTR outclass the soldiers of ASOIAF in every way. Celebrimbor, Corrupted Hobbits


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