All Rights Reserved. The most common complaint I see is that people still believe Peter has unnecessarily expanded the story so he could make three movies. Please read. He also was the leader of the wizards and of the White Council that opposed Sauron.
Saruman first appears in The Fellowship of the Ring (1954), which is the first volume of The Lord of the Rings. The order of Wizards, the Maiar who came to Middle-earth after the first millennium of the Third Age. Of these, five came to the northwestern regions: Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, Alatar and Pallando. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! His hair was black at first, and though it turned white over time streaks of black remained. Neither Sauron nor Saruman ever found the Ring in the Gladden Fields. So well, there you have it. Maybe it doesn’t justify these three movies for everyone, but I believe everyone would have been much less happy with the result had Peter done only 1 or 2 movies. Can’t wait! Barry Humphries - Great Goblin
Saruman assured them that he had determined that the Ring was in fact at the bottom of the Sea where Sauron would never find it. John Callen - Oin He created armies and machinery and sought to expand his power, but in the end Saruman’s works were undone by a power greater than any he could devise and he was slain by one of his own slaves. Aidan Turner - Kili I wasn't sure if this was because he truly didn't believe it or if he was trying to throw gandalf off the trail. PJ has spoken about possibliy doing an expanded 25th.
And yet the differences have provided material that add to my imagination of how things were in MiddleEarth even if the details are different.
Technically they ARE included in The Hobbit by authorial fiat.
ANSWER: The inclusion of the characters Saruman, Radagast, and Galadriel in Peter Jackson’s film adaptation of “The Hobbit” continues to rankle would-be Tolkien purists and critics.The most common complaint I see is that people still believe Peter has unnecessarily expanded the story so he could make three movies. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings novels — and the Peter Jackson movie trilogy they inspired — he’s the wise but aging Gandalf the Grey, a mentor to hobbits.
You are welcome to use the contact form to share your thoughts about this article. Though Isengard was in Rohan, it belonged to Gondor, but the guard there had grown lax. by Tedoras. Tolkien Blog. Sometimes, there *is* cause. Saruman, also known as Saruman the White, is the secondary antagonist of the Lord of the Rings books and its movie adaptions. ← How Is Thranduil Different from the Book? Ken Stott - Balin
For all things Tolkien, Lord of The Rings, and The Hobbit ... Press J to jump to the feed. Cate Blanchett - Galadriel Yes, there is enough in Tolkien’s book to merit three movies. Saruman reasoned that if Sauron remained in Dol Guldur, the Ring might reveal itself while seeking its Master.
Related to the timeline issue, is this because Elrond says "400 years of watchful peace" even though that happened like 500 years prior to the events of the Hobbit?
We close comments after a few days to prevent comment spam. Jonathan Evans calls the characterization of Saruman in the chapter The Voice of Saruman a “tour de force”. In 2759, Saruman offered to take up residence in Isengard and repair and maintain its defenses.
Saruman, also known as Saruman the White, is the secondary antagonist of the Lord of the Rings books and its movie adaptions. The Maiar were spirits who helped and served the Valar in the Undying Lands. Nor would it have been a foregone conclusion that my opinion would have ruled, or that movie audiences would have agreed with anything I might have influenced. Saruman also became acquainted with Treebeard, the eldest of the Ents in nearby Fangorn Forest. I am still not ready to forgive the film industry for making “Ironmaster” and “Barbarian Queen” (or myself for being stupid enough to go see them in the theater — but those were different days).
My opinion is that Peter did not use these characters well. It’s just crazy how people hack at both the books and the movies for not making the eagles into transporter beams. And then a hint, maybe, of the Final Battle – Turin and Gurthang v. Morgoth! The criticisms directed at these films are all valid at least in that they represent the feelings of the people expressing them. After Sauron is defeated, Saruman flees from Isengard, together with Wormtongue, intent on avenging both his and his master's downfall on the peaceful Hobbits. Tolkien described Beorn as simply a man “and a bit of a magician”. Click here to follow The Middle-earth Blog on Twitter: @tolkien_qna. Hope everything else is correct, it's difficult when you've only seen the movies and haven't read the books. This is actually explained in the Council of Elrond chapter in TFOTR. After the defeat of his armies, having been caught in the betrayal of Sauron, Saruman is offered refuge by Gandalf, in return for his aid, but having chosen his path, is unable to turn from it. Mikael Persbrandt - Beorn How about an Elrond and Galadriel biopic? Early on, Saruman went on many journeys throughout Middle-earth. Saruman would have thrown down Sauron if the opportunity presented itself. Which suggests that there would have been enough in LOTR for five or six movies. “More White Council! If the confrontation between the White Council and Sauron is presented as I hope it is, a lot of people will eat their words and say, “Oh … that was all necessary setup. Adam Brown - Ori Jackson’s THE HOBBIT has turned out to be, too often, a bloated trainwreck, a production that tries to do too much, trying to incorporate too many narratives, too many amped up special effects sequences, and it goes far, far beyond “embellishing a little.” It has edifying moments, here and there, but…it strikes me that what gets lost in Jackson’s THE HOBBIT is Bilbo and his story. At least in the book it gives Gandalf some depth; Thorin’s adventure is only one of the many concerns of the wizard, and Tolkien introduced Gandalf as exactly the type of character who is involved in a lot of stories (Elrond, too). Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Annual 2013, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Annual 2013, Screenshots from the Teaser Trailer of The Desolation of Smaug, First Look of Bilbo in The Desolation of Smaug. Saruman commanding his forces from Orthanc It must have been during Gandalf's captivity in Orthanc that Saruman began to amass a massive army of Orcs , Dunlendings , and Uruk-hai , since Gandalf came to an as yet un-destroyed Isengard. I think Jackson’s LORD OF THE RINGS was, for the most part, such a movie (trilogy), one which by and large faithfully and vividly captured the story Tolkien tried to tell.