I wouldnât give him more than a two year contract though. Just that he’s had a handful of good years. However, the A's declined to offer Semien a one-year, $18.9 million qualifying offer in October, and the sense around the league is that the 30-year-old will sign for much higher than what the A's will offer. What about the 2636 plate appearances he had before 2019 where he had a .713 OPS and 96 OPS+? The dodgers need a good RH bat. Thatâs what it boils down to. Dumb, uninformed comment. What makes teams think that they get the 2019 semien and not the below average offensive player he's been for the rest of his career? Youâve created a lot more uncertainty compared to bringing back Turner or signing another 3B. Is 3 years/45 million crazy? Why not give Turner a 4 year deal…just give him a lower salary towards the end. Turner, after all, is reported to be seeking a four-year contract that’d run through his age-39 season, so it’s more than understandable if the Dodgers and other clubs are mulling alternatives. Barnes will back up just like 2020, Not my call ofc in the end but if it comes down to it (and theres a good chance) you very well could be seeing this platoon. More skeptical teams might point to the fact that Semien was more of a league-average bat prior to 2019. Its almost like a great deal of fans have absolutely no clue whatsoever about how GM’s actually operate in real life…. (I know he isn’t that young at 30 YO, but still seems to me he’d be better off going the one year route). Semien has gone 6-for-28 (.214) through 11 Grapefruit League games with a double, a home run and a 4:7 BB:K. The former Athletic is adjusting to life with a … Semien is little more than a glorified utility infielder. Teams don’t care about any stats from the shortened 2020 season, you do. A couple of months ago Roberts made a remark about Turner that made it sound like it was up to the player to decide where he wanted to go. The Toronto Blue Jays have agreed to a one year, $18 million deal with shortstop Marcus Semien, a source told The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal. And while he did hit well in Dodger Stadium in 2017 & 2019, he hit .211 with a .268/.447/.716 slash line in 2018. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors. Riley isnât the answer right now, he could be but right now ATL canât afford for him to get 140+ starts at 3Rd in 2021. The difference between Turner/Muncy and Semien is that the Dodgers acquired the first 2 for free (waivers/released) and Semien would cost more than $10 MM per year (mlbtr prediction is 1 year -$14 MM). He makes contact, but below average clip. Stop caring about 2020 stats, they only matter in terms of personal career numbers, on their own they’re largely worthless. They wanted him back out. DJ LeMahieu Los Angeles Dodgers Marcus Semien MLB MLB Free Agent New York Yankees World S. Phillies third baseman Alec Bohm went 2-for0-4 with ... Marcus Semien went 2-for-4 at the plate and slugged a solo ... and earn second base eligibility. He should be signed as a starting shortstop with good defense and slight offensive upside. Another team looking at him as a SS should be willing to pay more for him versus at 3B. Turner’s bat is going the wrong direction, and his D has slipped as well. Turner probably hoping Springer goes to the Mets (I think he will) and Blue Jays make a better offer with Springer off the board. This sounds like a planted story by Rosenthal. He makes about as much sense as the Dodgers regular 3B as LeMahieu, and that didn’t pan out because it made no sense either. Semien would give the Dodgers a fallback in the event that Seager signs elsewhere upon reaching the open market. Marcus Semien's third-place finish in the AL MVP race is the best by a @CalBaseball alum since Jeff Kent was named NL MVP in 2000. Would love to have Turner back, but there’s no way the Dodgers should even consider his 4-year ask, or even 3 for that matter. He needs to prove his 2019 wasn’t just a fluke, or at least show that he can put up something better than slightly below average production at the plate. 7 games, come on. He is a hard guy to determine his value after I looked further into the metrics. Even if he regresses at the plate heâs still an above average bat for a C, less so for 3B. Dude has had 1 good season his whole career. Rosenthal reported LA's interest in second baseman DJ LeMahieu, but the three-time All-Star reportedly inked a six-year, $90 million deal in his return to the New York Yankees. Both are causes for concern, but it's far from fair to evaluate Semien's performance based on a truncated season, especially when he powered through injuries for a significant portion of the year. Worse that that, he spends quite a bit of time not playing due to one ailment or another. Although the Dodgers are certainly not opposed to a reunion with Turner, they've also composed a list of infield alternatives. Marcus Semien. Turner is getting old and tried to kill his teammates by not wearing a mask during the WS celebrations after testing positive. There’s surely an aspect of due diligence at play here. Then we trade JD Davis for prospects. Dodgers have plenty of options. I donât see this move happening in 2021. Between Ct3 Rios Smith Muncy Beaty I dont think its an end of the world scenario- Dodgers love versatility, Smith would get a start a week at 3b for 2021. True, Semien has played just 50 games at third base in his eight-year Major League career, and the last time he did so was in 2014 with the Chicago White Sox. I think most of us love him and his bat. âGlorified infielderâ LOL. of the guys on their 40 man are 30 years old or younger. Matt Chapman will shift to shortstop for the nightcap, while Vimael Machin starts at third base. Besides his glove JT has been better than Arenado hitting wise and he has sustainable home and away stats unlike Arenado. I wouldn't hate a trade for Bryant if they want to go that route. He’s one of the best hitters of all time. You want to focus on the regular season. Also by taking on Arenado’s contract that would limit the Dodgers negotiations in extending Seager, Buehler, and Bellinger. There’s no way they take playing time away from him. Yea but your not paying the “Rocks” price –, Fudge it tho, I say stay all internal, bring up Ruiz and let Smith put on a mitt not glove and lets see a Rios/Smith platoon at 3b Smith/Ruiz/barnes platoon at C, Deadline we can still do something worst case. Semien has been linked to various teams around the league, including a possible reunion with the A's, with both parties reportedly interested in keeping the fan favorite in Oakland. Could it be that Semien, like Turner, just needed more time to develop his bat, and finally figured it out later in his career — just like Turner? I hope for the best for Simien but anybody that points to 2019 only as a reason to sign a player for offensive purposes is making a mistake. In other words: Simien should be paid like a #8 or #9 hitter. Since 2015, he’s had a 119, 116, 126, 104 and 118 wRC+ away from Coors. Seeing Atlanta probably is done spending on Smyly and Morton it’s probably a pipe dream. Arenado mashes away from Denver too, please lay off the pipe. Need to lock him up for 2-3 with a team option. If he gets a 3/39M offer or something, he should take it. Should the A's want to retain their star shortstop, they will need to act quickly. Edwin Rios is a fine backup if Turner gets hurt or needs more rest going forward. In many ways, Semien exemplifies the difficulty in evaluating a player during this year’s two-month slate of games. If I’m the Dodgers i would offer two years with a third year option. First two season 10 million a year, last 2 seasons 4-5 million. Regardless, at the end of the day, I think the Dodgers will match and keep him – unless perhaps someone goes way overboard but it does not feel remotely like that is going to happen – especially in this Covid economy. More News Blue Jays' Marcus Semien: Settling in at second base Only you are talking about 2020. But his lower numbers, combined with the allure of a powerhouse 2022 free agent class -- which could include Seager -- points to a one-year deal being the most favorable. If this isn’t sarcasm, that’s such an awful comparison. @BovineCrab I am kind of agreeing with you here. The market for Semien has yet to fully take shape, as is the case with most position players in this glacial free agency period. Hes arguably the highest upside SS on the market right now, if he takes a one year pillow deal, he ends up maybe the 6th best SS on the FA market next year. MLB's hot stove has caught fire at rapid pace over the last few weeks, and there's no shortage of rumors surrounding where free agent Marcus Semien could end up. DJ LeMahieu Los Angeles Dodgers Marcus Semien, Seriously. Once a week max, They want his bat in the lineup everyday. As a Scott Boras client, he seems unlikely to sign an extension this spring. Lots of ifs but certainly very possible they keep this up for years. Few teams needed a shortstop this offseason, and of the ones that did, none would value Semien the same as the A’s. Youâd rather have Ruiz or Turner? If A-Rod could convert to the hot corner after playing SS early on in his career, Semien has the same abilities as A-Rod to some degree. Heâs a career .263 hitter away from Denver. The Dodgers were in the mix for DJ LeMahieu prior to his agreement to return to the Yankees, but Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic cautions that L.A.’s miss on LeMahieu doesn’t guarantee a reunion with Justin Turner at third base. The same age DJ LeMahieu finishes his 6 year 90 million contract for 15 million per year. Could Marcus Semien be the answer to their ... Murray mentioned that teams have spoken with Semien about possibly playing either second or third base. Corey actually drafted as a 3B. There’s no evidence that Semien is any sort of priority for the Dodgers at the moment, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to hear that they’ve also considered a handful of other options. The speculation was wrong, obviously. Not sure this makes much sense, but I also didnât think turner, muncy and chris Taylor would have their improbable turnarounds with us. He is a good defensive shortstop who has been a below average hitter (< 100 OPS+) in all seasons he's played except 2019, when he suddenly became good enough to earn MVP votes. If you want to resign JT to play 1b with Rio, sure! A's general manager David Forst and manager Bob Melvin have also expressed their wishes to keep him, and the longer the offseason stretches out without another organization's offer, the likelier it is the two sides can strike a deal. After tying with Willy Adames and Andrelton Simmons for the fifth-most defensive runs saved (DRS) with 12 in 2019, Semien reverted back with minus-5 DRS in 2020, ranking in baseball's bottom tier. It’s also worth noting, too, that the Dodgers appear willing to spend at the position. His last 769 games, all with the A's, have been played at shortstop. So they floated an installment ... he benefitted playing next to Matt Chapman — who has generational range at third base. Marcus Semien was considered to be the free agent most likely to return to the Oakland A’s. The Dodgers are mulling potential alternatives at the hot corner, per Rosenthal, including longtime A’s shortstop Marcus Semien. A reunion with Turner shouldâve been âguaranteedâ the day free agency officially began. Fangraphs doesn’t like him. After a stellar 2019 where he finished third in American League MVP voting, Semien's 2020 was subpar at best, but there's little doubt he can't return to some semblance of his MVP-caliber season. Colorado would have to kick in a lot of cash if they wanted more than salary relief from trading Arenado. Option (c) â Trade a few suspect prospects to the Cubs for Bryant. Either way they aren’t going to bid against themselves. This putting him into a tough situation. Turner is the perfect fit for that lineup. According to reports, Marcus Semien is a part of that hunt. Dodgers Have Considered Marcus Semien At Third Base. Marcus Semien (Keith Allison, Wikimedia Commons) The Toronto Blue Jays drastically improved their infield depth on Tuesday by the signing of second baseman Marcus Semien of San Francisco, California. President of baseball ops Andrew Friedman and his crew wouldn’t be doing their jobs if they didn’t consider all avenues, but Semien nevertheless creates an interesting option for the Dodgers — particularly if he’s signed to a multi-year deal. People forget about the juiced ball in 2019. A bad idea overall. However the quoted statement of semien being a below average hitter every season but 2019 stands regardless of what happened in 2020. btw he ops’d 1.344 in the Astros series, he went 3 for 12 against the CHW. He’s been just fine out of Colorado. Gotta thank Preller is SD for motivating LADs this offseason! It was a dumb remark but please, please leave it alone, or it will devour yet another discussion in a matter of minutes. âTeams donât care about a 60 game sample, they care about a 6 game sample more!â. His OPS+ is average. Most recently with the Oakland Athletics, Semien has played mostly shortstop but could play both third and second base also. 2019 should be removed from the equation. If he sign a long term contract now at potentially a discount price for the 3B position, will not give him maximum value later on. Signing Semien would continue that trend, as they could employ him at second base, shortstop or third base. Simien absolutely proved he is incapable of consistent offensive production without the juiced ball. The Dodgers have at least considered free agent Marcus Semien to play third base or multiple positions. From what we know about the Dodgers coaching staff, don’t be surprised when they turn Semien into an MVP candidate. Semien reportedly on Dodgers’ list of third-base options Jan. 18: Although the chances of a reunion between the Dodgers and third baseman Justin Turner have seemingly improved with DJ LeMahieu finalizing a deal with the Yankees, MLB Network insider Ken Rosenthal reports in an article for The Athletic (subscription required) that Los Angeles has a list of alternatives, including Semien. That’s a small sample, of course, but that’s true of the entire 2020 season. The Jays came to terms with Semien, who has played the last six seasons with the Oakland Athletics, to a one-year contract worth $18 million according to Gregor Chisholm of The Toronto Star. Marcus Semien went from an average player to a star in 2019, finishing third in the AL MVP voting. But he has to keep raking and Ruiz has to be ready. Marcus Andrew Semien (born September 17, 1990) is an American professional baseball shortstop for the Toronto Blue Jays of Major League Baseball (MLB). That or you can continue discussing wannabe’s and has been’s. That’s two years and $30MM shy of where he landed, of course, but we don’t know when that offer came in, either. I know Semienâs agent is looking for $100M+ contract for him but in my opinion, thereâs no way this guy gets a dime over 3/$40M and that might even be too much. Especially if it is a player that showed no signs of producing at that level for years prior to 2019 and then had a bad offensive season after 2019. That’s the only way his contract won’t be a bust. If he takes a year or two contract, he has a chance of getting hurt or declining and ruining his stock. Thank god his agent is Boras. He has a long term history of producing below average offense. âArenado mashes away from Denver tooâ Makes more sense to me. She flamed out after 4…. Please No to Semien – Enter the trade market before this LAD, Have to think LAD is standing tall on a 2+1 small buyout yr 3 with Turner- Still cant believe some team just doesnt jump in and offer a slight overpay on a full 3 yrs for him – He would be such a good fit in so many places and if you have to overpay a tad this is the type of player to do it with (comes with great attitude/culture), Personally, Id be fine riding CT3 Rios Muncy and giving Smith some reps there till the deadline then make a call~, Maybe get a guy like Todd Frazier for 2 mill flat from fa…they could also get a project like Franco for pretty cheap as well if they think they can fix him, I tend to agree with you….no on Semien and yes to the tag-team or trade option. Please login to leave a reply. yeah the Padres have a long history of being high spenders. It shouldn't be hard for Semien to land a considerable offer, and use the 2021 season to propel him towards a longer deal in 2022. 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